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		<title>By: John Patterson</title>
		<link>http://ostimusic.com/blog/donald-erb-1927-2008/comment-page-1#comment-23516</link>
		<dc:creator>John Patterson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 22:59:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too am very sad to hear of Don Erb&#039;s passing. I knew him from 4 years of dating one of his daughters and spending a great part of my formative teenage years hanging around him. What an awesome guy he was. So open and friendly..menacing sometimes..but only when it was appropriate. I saw this blog and wanted to post 2 quick memories of this great man.
I remember once he was asked to do some type of &quot;Gospel Song&quot;...not really sure why, but he needed to make something that sounded like genuine gospel music. Don went upstairs to the piano - I heard a few chords here and there  - and not 45 minutes later he comes down with a full on killer gospel piece all done.
In another fond memory, I had just bought a cool LCD tricked out stopwatch/wristwatch (this is 1980 or so..) and decided to time one of Don&#039;s &quot;Happenings&quot; (which were amazing pieces). At the end of the piece, I came over all pleased with myself for timing the piece to the split second...it was 15:34. I asked Don if he knew how long it was..he said &quot;15:35&quot;. My jaw dropped because I could see he had no stopwatch or any other ways to measure time. &quot;How did you know that?&quot; I asked in astonishment. &quot;I sat and counted it out yesterday in my office&quot;. Also I remember you could play any cluster of keys on the piano and he could identify every one.
Genius stuff no doubt and all wrapped up in a warm affable person. How often does that happen? Happy to say maybe he learned me a thing or two. 
All the best to his family and everyone who knew him and loved him. 
-John Patterson</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too am very sad to hear of Don Erb&#8217;s passing. I knew him from 4 years of dating one of his daughters and spending a great part of my formative teenage years hanging around him. What an awesome guy he was. So open and friendly..menacing sometimes..but only when it was appropriate. I saw this blog and wanted to post 2 quick memories of this great man.<br />
I remember once he was asked to do some type of &#8220;Gospel Song&#8221;&#8230;not really sure why, but he needed to make something that sounded like genuine gospel music. Don went upstairs to the piano &#8211; I heard a few chords here and there  &#8211; and not 45 minutes later he comes down with a full on killer gospel piece all done.<br />
In another fond memory, I had just bought a cool LCD tricked out stopwatch/wristwatch (this is 1980 or so..) and decided to time one of Don&#8217;s &#8220;Happenings&#8221; (which were amazing pieces). At the end of the piece, I came over all pleased with myself for timing the piece to the split second&#8230;it was 15:34. I asked Don if he knew how long it was..he said &#8220;15:35&#8243;. My jaw dropped because I could see he had no stopwatch or any other ways to measure time. &#8220;How did you know that?&#8221; I asked in astonishment. &#8220;I sat and counted it out yesterday in my office&#8221;. Also I remember you could play any cluster of keys on the piano and he could identify every one.<br />
Genius stuff no doubt and all wrapped up in a warm affable person. How often does that happen? Happy to say maybe he learned me a thing or two.<br />
All the best to his family and everyone who knew him and loved him.<br />
-John Patterson</p>
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		<title>By: Stan Heilbrun</title>
		<link>http://ostimusic.com/blog/donald-erb-1927-2008/comment-page-1#comment-21249</link>
		<dc:creator>Stan Heilbrun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 21:45:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I studied with Don Erb in the late 1950s. At that time he was not the beloved elder statesman that I see described here. He was a young, adventurous composer only a few years older that I was. He pushed me to be better than I was just as he pushed himself. Funny, charming, intelligent - a superb  teacher.;  a much better musician than many of his his more prestigious elders on the faculty. And I learned at least as much from hearing the chances he took as a composer as I did from his excellent classes.

An anecdote: I played in a chamber piece of his at an Institute of Music student recital - the only modern piece among the usual list of Schumann, Bach, Chopin. At intermission, he asked a fellow teacher, an elderly, somewhat dotty elementary piano teacher what she thought of the concert so far. She said, &quot;it was lovely, all except that dreadful modern piece.&quot; Don said calmly, &quot;That was my piece.&quot; Her face fell as she said, &quot;Oh, I&#039;m so sorry. I hope I didn&#039;t hurt your feelings.&quot; And Don, without blinking said, &quot;Miss ....  , you couldn&#039;t hurt my feelings.&quot; She, of course, didn&#039;t get it. But for the rest of us, it was all we could do to suppress our snickers.

I found this web page because I had been  reminiscing about Don Erb and wanted to see just what he was doing. A few months too late to send him greetings and thanks for the formative role he played in my life.

Stan Heilbrun</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I studied with Don Erb in the late 1950s. At that time he was not the beloved elder statesman that I see described here. He was a young, adventurous composer only a few years older that I was. He pushed me to be better than I was just as he pushed himself. Funny, charming, intelligent &#8211; a superb  teacher.;  a much better musician than many of his his more prestigious elders on the faculty. And I learned at least as much from hearing the chances he took as a composer as I did from his excellent classes.</p>
<p>An anecdote: I played in a chamber piece of his at an Institute of Music student recital &#8211; the only modern piece among the usual list of Schumann, Bach, Chopin. At intermission, he asked a fellow teacher, an elderly, somewhat dotty elementary piano teacher what she thought of the concert so far. She said, &#8220;it was lovely, all except that dreadful modern piece.&#8221; Don said calmly, &#8220;That was my piece.&#8221; Her face fell as she said, &#8220;Oh, I&#8217;m so sorry. I hope I didn&#8217;t hurt your feelings.&#8221; And Don, without blinking said, &#8220;Miss &#8230;.  , you couldn&#8217;t hurt my feelings.&#8221; She, of course, didn&#8217;t get it. But for the rest of us, it was all we could do to suppress our snickers.</p>
<p>I found this web page because I had been  reminiscing about Don Erb and wanted to see just what he was doing. A few months too late to send him greetings and thanks for the formative role he played in my life.</p>
<p>Stan Heilbrun</p>
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		<title>By: Joy Von Spain</title>
		<link>http://ostimusic.com/blog/donald-erb-1927-2008/comment-page-1#comment-19284</link>
		<dc:creator>Joy Von Spain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 03:52:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have passed his music around to people wherever I&#039;ve lived. In a time when electronic music was beginning in America he was utilizing the instruments of the future alongside more familiar acoustic ones. In my opinion, his mastery of orchestration and writing for brass &amp; percussion remains unrivaled in American music. 

All devotees of powerful, cathartic sound - those who  awaken daily to expect the Apocalypse - must listen to his orchestral works. Exciting, filled with tension &amp; doom, sometimes with additional brass and percussion sections behind the audience, they are not for the faint of heart. He was a composer of exuberant, unbridled cacophony &amp; noise in a time when restrained (serial, and later, neo-Romantic) music was getting the Pulitzers - and many of the commissions. An expressionist to his core, Dr. Erb had no interest in pandering to a prize committee. 

He was emotional man whom I loved as if he were my own grandfather. Devastated after the Oklahoma City catastrophe in 1995, Dr. Erb wrote a beautiful and sorrowful solo violin piece. He abhorred violence and war. He had seen the effects of the nuclear bomb in person. I recall at a composition seminar he wept as he admitted to us all that his friendship with our fellow classmate, a Japanese student, had in his excellent personality, love and humor finally erased what awful effects Dr. Erb had carried with him all those decades since serving in WWII. I will never forget that day, a man in his seventies finally shedding the last remnants of a youth spent in the shadow of the war propaganda machine. He loved his students immensely.

I cried for days when he became ill over the summer after my freshman year. It might sound melodramatic, but I couldn&#039;t leave my apartment; I was worried he might not recover. I did not want to lose him - after all, we&#039;d just met! And there were so many more things to laugh about, and good times to be had, and much more for me to learn from him. I never had another teacher I respected in the Conservatory. I miss him today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have passed his music around to people wherever I&#8217;ve lived. In a time when electronic music was beginning in America he was utilizing the instruments of the future alongside more familiar acoustic ones. In my opinion, his mastery of orchestration and writing for brass &amp; percussion remains unrivaled in American music. </p>
<p>All devotees of powerful, cathartic sound &#8211; those who  awaken daily to expect the Apocalypse &#8211; must listen to his orchestral works. Exciting, filled with tension &amp; doom, sometimes with additional brass and percussion sections behind the audience, they are not for the faint of heart. He was a composer of exuberant, unbridled cacophony &amp; noise in a time when restrained (serial, and later, neo-Romantic) music was getting the Pulitzers &#8211; and many of the commissions. An expressionist to his core, Dr. Erb had no interest in pandering to a prize committee. </p>
<p>He was emotional man whom I loved as if he were my own grandfather. Devastated after the Oklahoma City catastrophe in 1995, Dr. Erb wrote a beautiful and sorrowful solo violin piece. He abhorred violence and war. He had seen the effects of the nuclear bomb in person. I recall at a composition seminar he wept as he admitted to us all that his friendship with our fellow classmate, a Japanese student, had in his excellent personality, love and humor finally erased what awful effects Dr. Erb had carried with him all those decades since serving in WWII. I will never forget that day, a man in his seventies finally shedding the last remnants of a youth spent in the shadow of the war propaganda machine. He loved his students immensely.</p>
<p>I cried for days when he became ill over the summer after my freshman year. It might sound melodramatic, but I couldn&#8217;t leave my apartment; I was worried he might not recover. I did not want to lose him &#8211; after all, we&#8217;d just met! And there were so many more things to laugh about, and good times to be had, and much more for me to learn from him. I never had another teacher I respected in the Conservatory. I miss him today.</p>
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		<title>By: Joy Von Spain</title>
		<link>http://ostimusic.com/blog/donald-erb-1927-2008/comment-page-1#comment-19175</link>
		<dc:creator>Joy Von Spain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 16:28:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was in Dr Erb&#039;s last class before retirement. I share your obvious affection for him. He was a badass. I don&#039;t know how he would feel about the music I make now, but when I was his student he always looked for content and skill over genre or style. 

I especially liked when he would speak his mind in public. Once after a Cleveland Chamber Symphony concert a composer whose work was premiered that night walked up to him asking what Dr. Erb thought, perhaps expecting a compliment... instead Erb shook his head and replied, &quot;The piece was total shit, but their performance almost held it together.&quot; I&#039;m pretty sure he was speaking for everyone there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was in Dr Erb&#8217;s last class before retirement. I share your obvious affection for him. He was a badass. I don&#8217;t know how he would feel about the music I make now, but when I was his student he always looked for content and skill over genre or style. </p>
<p>I especially liked when he would speak his mind in public. Once after a Cleveland Chamber Symphony concert a composer whose work was premiered that night walked up to him asking what Dr. Erb thought, perhaps expecting a compliment&#8230; instead Erb shook his head and replied, &#8220;The piece was total shit, but their performance almost held it together.&#8221; I&#8217;m pretty sure he was speaking for everyone there.</p>
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		<title>By: john pitman</title>
		<link>http://ostimusic.com/blog/donald-erb-1927-2008/comment-page-1#comment-14148</link>
		<dc:creator>john pitman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 15:58:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was saddened yesterday to have found out about Donald Erb`s passing. I was the victim of a house fire in Feb., 2005 and in it I lost the Donald Erb LP recordings (among a whole host of other contemporary works on LP from that era--still irks me, but oh, well). Back in March, 2008 I came across a Cleveland composers website and wrote to it asking where I might be able to find copies of those records. A month later he or his wife wrote back to me personally asking for my address to where a few copies may be sent. I did so and a short time later there arrived in my mail a box of just about every LP Donald Erb album there was. I don`t know where on earth they came from, but it took me by surprise at how kind they were to have taken time out of their days to put them together, pack them up, and ship all those LP`s to a fan. It was a very cool thing to do. I am so thankful. john</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was saddened yesterday to have found out about Donald Erb`s passing. I was the victim of a house fire in Feb., 2005 and in it I lost the Donald Erb LP recordings (among a whole host of other contemporary works on LP from that era&#8211;still irks me, but oh, well). Back in March, 2008 I came across a Cleveland composers website and wrote to it asking where I might be able to find copies of those records. A month later he or his wife wrote back to me personally asking for my address to where a few copies may be sent. I did so and a short time later there arrived in my mail a box of just about every LP Donald Erb album there was. I don`t know where on earth they came from, but it took me by surprise at how kind they were to have taken time out of their days to put them together, pack them up, and ship all those LP`s to a fan. It was a very cool thing to do. I am so thankful. john</p>
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		<title>By: UT performs &#8220;Kingfishers Catch Fire&#8221; at John Mackey&#8217;s Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>UT performs &#8220;Kingfishers Catch Fire&#8221; at John Mackey&#8217;s Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 16:13:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] composers), &#8220;Chant Funeraire&#8221; by Faure, &#8220;Suite Francaise&#8221; by Milhaud (not one of my favorite composers), and &#8220;Winds of Nagual&#8221; by Michael Colgrass.  The concert will also be [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] composers), &#8220;Chant Funeraire&#8221; by Faure, &#8220;Suite Francaise&#8221; by Milhaud (not one of my favorite composers), and &#8220;Winds of Nagual&#8221; by Michael Colgrass.  The concert will also be [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Kaufman</title>
		<link>http://ostimusic.com/blog/donald-erb-1927-2008/comment-page-1#comment-12170</link>
		<dc:creator>Christopher Kaufman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 19:56:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your tribute.  Don wrote some of the most beautiful, passionate and colorful music I&#039;ve ever heard.  Every emotional timbre was covered in his work... from gentle glassy colors to powerful massive textures.  There are very few who have been as tremendous a master of orchestration as Don Erb.  And your right, he was a wonderful teacher.  He had everyone pursuing their own vision of music. He made a very powerful impression on me, impossible to put in words. But to quote the man himself...&quot;If I could put it in words, I&#039;d be a poet... that&#039;s why I write music.&quot;  Don Erb is one of the reasons I write music today as my full-time work.  I remember when he stood up in front of seminars and said, to paraphrase...&quot;Music should have everything... emotion, sensuality, intellect, craftsmanship, passion... and not be reduced to just one of those...&quot;  And it&#039;s also true, he was very intolerant of mediocrity.

Cheers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your tribute.  Don wrote some of the most beautiful, passionate and colorful music I&#8217;ve ever heard.  Every emotional timbre was covered in his work&#8230; from gentle glassy colors to powerful massive textures.  There are very few who have been as tremendous a master of orchestration as Don Erb.  And your right, he was a wonderful teacher.  He had everyone pursuing their own vision of music. He made a very powerful impression on me, impossible to put in words. But to quote the man himself&#8230;&#8221;If I could put it in words, I&#8217;d be a poet&#8230; that&#8217;s why I write music.&#8221;  Don Erb is one of the reasons I write music today as my full-time work.  I remember when he stood up in front of seminars and said, to paraphrase&#8230;&#8221;Music should have everything&#8230; emotion, sensuality, intellect, craftsmanship, passion&#8230; and not be reduced to just one of those&#8230;&#8221;  And it&#8217;s also true, he was very intolerant of mediocrity.</p>
<p>Cheers.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephanie Erb</title>
		<link>http://ostimusic.com/blog/donald-erb-1927-2008/comment-page-1#comment-12090</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephanie Erb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 22:35:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PS:  I would also like to add, as my Mom was just letting me know, the correct Swahili is &quot;WCLV Kinachosha&quot; and it was researched by my Dad&#039;s colleague and student, Gene O&#039;Brien....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS:  I would also like to add, as my Mom was just letting me know, the correct Swahili is &#8220;WCLV Kinachosha&#8221; and it was researched by my Dad&#8217;s colleague and student, Gene O&#8217;Brien&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephanie Erb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephanie Erb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 22:29:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My father was an amazing man, and his love and dedication to his students and his ideals was uncompromising.  I am so thankful for the support of his students and friends.  If you had ever been to a Donald Erb concert, you would know what it is like to be completely changed by hearing a piece of music.  He also made us laugh until his last days.  I will miss him so.  We Erbs love to hear the stories from his students and friends - so keep em coming!Oh, and by the way, it was Swahili for &quot;WCLV IS BORING&quot;.. but you get the idea...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My father was an amazing man, and his love and dedication to his students and his ideals was uncompromising.  I am so thankful for the support of his students and friends.  If you had ever been to a Donald Erb concert, you would know what it is like to be completely changed by hearing a piece of music.  He also made us laugh until his last days.  I will miss him so.  We Erbs love to hear the stories from his students and friends &#8211; so keep em coming!Oh, and by the way, it was Swahili for &#8220;WCLV IS BORING&#8221;.. but you get the idea&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Wallace E. Bubalo</title>
		<link>http://ostimusic.com/blog/donald-erb-1927-2008/comment-page-1#comment-12054</link>
		<dc:creator>Wallace E. Bubalo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 21:30:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interviewer: &quot;So you love your students?&quot;
Don Erb: &quot;You have to love  them.  When you see them struggle and try to express themselves you have to love them.  If you don&#039;t, there is something wrong with your heart.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interviewer: &#8220;So you love your students?&#8221;<br />
Don Erb: &#8220;You have to love  them.  When you see them struggle and try to express themselves you have to love them.  If you don&#8217;t, there is something wrong with your heart.&#8221;</p>
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